For the Bundeswehr lover in all of us...

[MaxxBrunn1938]

Bundeswehr caps that were converted to WW2 about 20years ago, would like to bring Navy and Luft back to original condition..

Joe

[Adler69]

I have a few pieces of early BW gear in my collection , i will look for them tomorrow and take some pics to post here , in the meantime here's some of the gear i have taken pics of

Early '50s Splinter camo helmet cover , it's actually the removable hood from a splinter jacker


Amoebatarn shelter half and tent pole pouch

[Gordon Craig]

Luft. IKE style jacket the shoulder boards had some kind of rank on them at on time but not when I purchaced it. I paid $6.95 for it back in the mid 80's

Sorry but you can not convert this back to a Bundeswehr jacket. They never had jackets like this with the elasticized waist.

Regards,

Gordon

[MaxxBrunn1938]

Sorry but you can not convert this back to a Bundeswehr jacket. They never had jackets like this with the elasticized waist.

Regards,

Gordon

Mmmm Gordon this is how I picked it up from a Surplus Store here in CA back in the 80's that had a bunch of them like it as well as the regular four pocket ones. It even has the blue A stamped inside. Unless these were converted for export ?

Joe

[MaxxBrunn1938]

Gordon first off I'm no expert on Bundeswehr items WW2 is more my area, but like I mentioned before when I bought this jacket I'd say the Surplus store had like about 50 of elastic Ike style, I know I tried on half of the for one that fit back then. I pulled it out of the closet and took some photos of the tags and A stamping.
Also is there any referance books out there on uniforms of the Bundeswehr?

Joe

[MaxxBrunn1938]

The A stamping over another label for wash and care.

[Gordon Craig]

MaxxBrunn1938,

Sorry but markings inside don't make this configuration authentic. The marks were there before the tunic was cut down to make a short jacket and the elastic waist added. There is a company in Germany that specializes in doing this sort of thing. As you said, for export. The name won't come tome right now but when I get home to Budapest from Vienna I'll post the name of the firm. Recently they have done the same thing to Austrian camo jackets.

Regards,

Gordon

[speedytop]

Hi,

I can and must assist Gordon here, this is a "verschlimmbesserter" style, never an official jacket in the Bundeswehr.

verschlimmbessern:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/verschlimmbessern

"... to make something worse..."

Regards
Uwe

[MaxxBrunn1938]

Bundeswehr caps that were converted to WW2 about 20years ago, would like to bring Navy and Luft back to original condition..

Joe

What would the tassel be for the Donald Duck cap? And are they still around?

[Gordon Craig]

MaxxBrunn1938,

There are almost as many cap talleys for the Bundesmarine as there was for the pre-war Kriegsmarine. Far too numerous to list. I'll look through my records and perhaps come up with a few suggestions for those that seem to be the most commonly encountered for sale.

Regards,

Gordon

[MaxxBrunn1938]

MaxxBrunn1938,

Sorry but markings inside don't make this configuration authentic. The marks were there before the tunic was cut down to make a short jacket and the elastic waist added. There is a company in Germany that specializes in doing this sort of thing. As you said, for export. The name won't come tome right now but when I get home to Budapest from Vienna I'll post the name of the firm. Recently they have done the same thing to Austrian camo jackets.

Regards,

Gordon

Thanks for the info on the jacket Gordon I actually saw the same thing done to a DDR overcoat on Ebay last night. Well I'll use it as a fantasy jacket then (lol) Any ideal on what the missing rank devises would be? And what would the breast patch be.. Thanks
Joe

[Gordon Craig]

MaxxBrunn1938,

There are almost as many cap talleys for the Bundesmarine as there was for the pre-war Kriegsmarine. Far too numerous to list. I'll look through my records and perhaps come up with a few suggestions for those that seem to be the most commonly encountered for sale.

Regards,

Gordon

MaxxBrunn1938

Here is an example of some of the different scripts you may find on Bundesmarine cap talleys. "BUNDESMARINE" is probably the most commonly encountered. You would also need to replace the Third Reich cocakde with a BM one. Might be cheaper in the long run to buy a new cap complete.

As for the air force tunic. Shoulderboards appear to be for the rank of Hauptman and the badge on the right chest is for "Raketen- und
Flugkörpersonal. Men involved in servicing rockets etc.

Regards,

Gordon

[SprogCollector]

Luft. IKE style jacket the shoulder boards had some kind of rank on them at on time but not when I purchaced it. I paid $6.95 for it back in the mid 80's

Not sure if this is the same jacket you were asking about the shoulderboard rank or not? The one shown is for an NCO. Here's a chart showing what rank devices were in use when your jacket was new (1971):
http://www.uniforminsignia.net/?opti...=53&result=646

[Gordon Craig]

Chris,

Thanks for correcting my mistake. Don't know how I did that! Enlisted man's collar tabs and all. Shouldn't do things early in the morning.

Regards,

Gordon

[Bob Hritz]

The bug has bitten. Here are my new Bundeswerh-Bundesluftwaffe items.

Bob Hritz