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    Nazi warplane lying off UK coast is intact

    Hope this historic and ultra rare bird is raised ASAP.



    A rare World War Two German bomber, shot down over the English Channel in 1940 and hidden for years by shifting sands at the bottom of the sea, is so well preserved a British museum wants to raise it.

    The Dornier 17 -- thought to be world's last known example -- was hit as it took part in the Battle of Britain.

    It ditched in the sea just off the Kent coast, southeast England, in an area known as the Goodwin Sands.

    The plane came to rest upside-down in 50 feet of water and has become partially visible from time to time as the sands retreated before being buried again.

    Now a high-tech sonar survey undertaken by the Port of London Authority (PLA) has revealed the aircraft to be in a startling state of preservation.

    Ian Thirsk, from the RAF Museum at Hendon in London, told the BBC he was "incredulous" when he first heard of its existence and potential preservation.

    "This aircraft is a unique aeroplane and it's linked to an iconic event in British history, so its importance cannot be over-emphasized, nationally and internationally," he said.

    "It's one of the most significant aeronautical finds of the century."

    Known as "the flying pencil," the Dornier 17 was designed as a passenger plane in 1934 and was later converted for military use as a fast bomber, difficult to hit and theoretically able to outpace enemy fighter aircraft.

    In all, some 1,700 were produced but they struggled in the war with a limited range and bomb load capability and many were scrapped afterwards.

    Striking high-resolution images appear to show that the Goodwin Sands plane suffered only minor damage, to its forward cockpit and observation windows, on impact.

    "The bomb bay doors were open, suggesting the crew jettisoned their cargo," said PLA spokesman Martin Garside.

    Two of the crew members died on impact, while two others, including the pilot, were taken prisoner and survived the war.

    "The fact that it was almost entirely made of aluminum and produced in one piece may have contributed to its preservation," Garside told Reuters.

    The plane is still vulnerable to the area's notorious shifting sands and has become the target of recreational divers hoping to salvage souvenirs.

    The RAF museum has launched an appeal to raise funds for the lifting operation.

    http://tinyurl.com/3mpadeb

    #2
    Saw this today, it would be really cool if they were able to recover a Dornier 17.

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      #3
      Very exciting, amazing that is has not been reocovered before, considering it was a known crash site, close to shore and fairly shallow.
      Hopefully those souvenier divers don't trash it too bad, and any remains found will be treated with the proper respect.

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        #4
        I am curious, did the two airmen's bodies, that died in the crash, wash ashore? Otherwise, how do they know that they are not still in the plane?
        The reason I ask is that if a ship is known to still contain remains, don't they declare that a "war grave" and not allow salvage?

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          #5
          Maybe someone from UK can say for certain, I would imagine the wreck is MoD property, and any salvage at all, bodies present or not, would be illegal, without MoD consent.
          If 2 crew in fact "died on impact", I would think they would still be with the ship.

          edit:
          Here is another link which has better pics, an interesting video, and confirms what I thought about MoD ownership

          http://tinyurl.com/3npz99b
          Last edited by TRC; 04-08-2011, 11:39 PM.

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            #6
            There will be no better memorial to the two, than the plane in a museum! If it is a wargrave now, after 100 years there will be nothing left in the salt water and the waves, what will it be then?
            The World Needs Peace

            Interesting photo archive: http://www.lostbulgaria.com

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              #7
              Originally posted by Theodor View Post
              There will be no better memorial to the two, than the plane in a museum! If it is a wargrave now, after 100 years there will be nothing left in the salt water and the waves, what will it be then?
              Agreed, I was wondering why they do that for sunken ships and not for sunken aircraft is all.

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                #8
                This is pretty old news, and there is some question as to the identity of the aircraft type.

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                  #9
                  just wish they would get it raised as recreational diver will have this plane stripped in a very very short time!!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by VtwinVince View Post
                    This is pretty old news, and there is some question as to the identity of the aircraft type.
                    Maybe old news to some, first I ever heard of it.
                    Who is doubting the type, the scans are almost as clear as a pic, there is no doubt.

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                      #11
                      Awesome. No doubt whatsoever about the identity of the plane.

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                        #12
                        Luftwaffe Aircraft Crew

                        Has the identity of the German crew been discovered?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Clayton View Post
                          Has the identity of the German crew been discovered?

                          Dornier Do 17Z-2 (1160)
                          Ditched on Goddwin Sands 1.40 PM following fighter attack.
                          Gefr. Huhn killed
                          Uffz. Reinhard, Uffz. Ritzel missing
                          Fw. Essert captured
                          Aircraft 5K+AR lost

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                            #14
                            Pilot: Feldwebel (Flt Sgt) Willi Effmert
                            Observer: Unteroffizier (Sgt) Herman Ritzel
                            Wireless Operator: Unteroffizier (Sgt) Helmut Reinhardt [KIA]
                            Bombardier: Gefreiter (Cpl) Heinz Huhn [KIA]

                            Both KIA's recovered and properly buried.

                            http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/cosford/...Z Wnr 1160.pdf

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                              #15
                              "Both KIA's recovered and properly buried."

                              It says one as recovered in Holland and the other in the UK. One of them must have floated around for a long time before reaching Holland.

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