Does anyone have a contact name/number at Maxwell AFB?? The Gathering of Eagles site has a contact page but it comes up as not available when you click on it.
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If I was a era Ace and all my evidence was lost I would've contacted my Geschwader friends and fans to ask for some saved pics..., even with some loss of memory you can try to track someone who was in the same Geschwader IMO.
Geschwader buddies used to take a lot of pics of eachother, especially when you were a good pilot...
What about photo's which were send to the family, brothers, sisters, friends etc ?
Aces were proud people and they worked a lot with photos, spreading them around..
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The Maxwell AFB command staff and the staff at ACSC have been made aware of the fact that one of the their speakers may potentially (emphasis on potentially) not be whom he claims.Comment
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Sprog: I could have told you that. I have a friend who is a student there this year and I forwarded this thread to him and he passed it onto the GoE staff. So they are well aware of it... there's just nothing they can do about it because the prints have all been made and will be signed during the GoE timeframe. Too late...
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I can't see how that can be an acceptable answer. If (again empghazing IF) the man is not who he claims, the lithos need to be destroyed and a new one made at a later date. Doing anything less perpetuates a known lie.
If the background info wasn't vetted properly then someone needs to be held accountable and USAF takes its lumps upfront. Going forward feigning ignorance will only makes things much worse. This info will eventually reach more mainstream audiences. It's no Abu Graib but there are other implications here. Proceeding kind of sets the ethics bar pretty low, don't you think? I kind of expect senior Air Force officers to conduct themselves to a considerably higher standard.
I also don't want to see an imposter potentially immortalized as a peer of Hartmann, Krupinski, and Rall.Comment
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I know what you are saying and agree 100% but that's not going to happen. I know Rall was once an Eagle and I believe Krupinski was too - not sure about Hartmann. I've attended that event several years in a row up to 1999 or 2000 and there were some amazing people there: warriors, rescue pilots, WASPS, experimental and test pilots, etc. And if Dulias isn't what he says he is, then he has NO business being there. There may be some heads rolling over this later.
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Different approach. I'm posting some questions for a friend of mine who's become intrigued by the whole Dulias debacle.
1. Mr. Dulias claims to have attended air academy #2 (Luftkriegsakademie) at Berlin-Gatow, beginning 1 Feb 1944, simultaneously completing officer training and flight training. The info I've found regrading LKS 2 shows only primary trainer type aircraft being used. My assumption is that students would likely be tracked towards specific roles at some later point in their training?
2. Were class records retained and/or what document trail would exist for graduates? At what point was the pilot badge awarded?
3. Were any fallschirm units located near Aachen in 1944 and Budapest in 1945?
4. Mr. Dulias contends that he landed a Bf-109 with one gear leg retracted because mechanical failure prevented the extended gear from retracting and also prevented the other gear leg from extending. I'm not familiar with the 109 landing gear design so can't comment on the liklihood of this occurring. In any event, I'm curious what the book approach to handling this would be? I suspect a student pilot would be told to take to his parachute.Last edited by SprogCollector; 05-04-2007, 02:33 PM.Comment
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I have been following this thread with some interest, and i see that there is proof that there is some fibbing going on... so i ask myself, why are the questions still coming?.. why are you digging spog??.. just curious...Comment
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Based on this thread, and others, I forwarded the basic lack of information on Lt. Dulias to the USAF and they, in turn, are asking for help in ascertaining his status. There are some serious time constraints involved as this matter hasn't been seriously looked at until the last few days and the Gathering of Eagles is scheduled for June 7.
Obviously there is potential for huge embarassment on the part of USAF. I also have very serious reservations about forever linking someone with the most famous names in aviation history who might (repeat, might) possibly not belong among them. The few former Luftwaffe flyers who are already past Eagles all have backgrounds that easily verified.
The basic facts are that there is no known evidence supporting Lt. Dulias's claims that he is a 5-victory ace of I./JG-53. There is equally no known evidence proving he is not who he claims. And therein lies the dilemna. How does USAF reconcile this paradox in less than 30 days?
The other part of this is that I don't like loose ends. If Lt Dulias is who he claims, we can't we, collectively, find the missing information? If he's not who he claims to be, what did he really do during the war? Couldn't we, again collectively, figure it out?Last edited by SprogCollector; 05-04-2007, 05:54 PM.Comment
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ok good points.. was just asking anyways i have been informed that Walter Schuck will at this years reading air show here in PAComment
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Walter Schuck is the genuine article with 206 CONFIRMED aerial victories with JG-5 and recipient of the Oakleaves to the Knight's Cross. I believe he also had several victories in the Me-262.
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Well, then if there are so many knowledgeable people here that can research what he didn't do.... maybe they should research what he did do.... how difficult would that be? Obviously, he was in the Luftwaffe.... right.... the photograph posted looks like him as an enlistedman, correct? Anyone, see other period pictures of him with a pilots badge?Comment
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Many if not most of the German military service records from WWII were destroyed at the end of the war. In many cases, the remainder of existing records are fragmented and scattered in a large number of public or private archives. Finding this soldier's service record is most likely not possible.Comment
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If ever shown that this gentleman is a fraud, could/would the new stolen valor act come into play, or is that just for americans? Sorry that I don't know much about that. As posted on another forum, I understand that the FBI made a first arrest under that act.
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