'57 RK good or bad? PLEASE HELP!!!

[Okrach]

Hi,

I would like to ask You if it is a real piece - I can't get better pics for now.

The Seller says:

Knights Cross with Oakleaves and Swords. Steinhauer & Luck manufacture. Cross is a relatively nice quality piece, not up to war time standards but still nicely detailed and polished silver frame, hallmarked “800” in the typical position. Oeakleaves & Swords device is a later manufacture piece, hallmarked silver 935 but not polished and therefore more dull in appearance. Comes with original case (No strange LDO-marked stuff)...'

I am still learning about German awards hence I am asking true experts for a
piece of advice

Thank You in advance

[Okrach]

General view...

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Rear

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Rear close up

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te case

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case open with ribbon loop (the color of the ribbon loop is a little bit funny though...)

[Okrach]

No experts?...

Are there any experts here?...p: ...

[hagwalther]

Are there any experts here?...p: ...

Er, it might be my computer but I can't see any photos ...

Regards ...

[Peter Wiking]

I say that the seller is both correct and honest about the cross and the oaks.
I dont know about the case though. Original he say, but WW2 original or 1957 original, thats the question.

Cheers.
Peter

[hagwalther]

Hi There,

Can see the piccy's now.

As I know things, these RK's come in three types assembled form :

a) 1939-45 parts (not the core though)
b) new items but quite nice quality possibly from original dies
c) 'new' more modern but 'inferior' materials

If you are lucky enough and can afford then buy a) failing that buy b) and (in my opinion only, forget about c).

If the core is magnetic then it is probably an a) or b) version.

Yours looks like a b) as a) cores had lower acorn leaves.

In view of the case. The vendor is probably stating that it is original with the cross i.e. it was not added later. Some 1957 RK's come with LDO cases.

Seeing the LDO went out of existance 1945 one could argue that an LDO case with a 1957 award is a little suspect. One may be forgiven to think that RK LDO cases matched with 1957 awards have been done so to help sell a package.

The Oaks look very modern and (as I know things) never came with the RK itself. They have probably been added later.

Oaks came with their own cases and ribbons or as loose items. I have an early cased set of Oaks by S+L.

Regards ...

[Airborne Nut]

I Looked at picking this one up off the eStand myself. IMO a nice cross for a fair price.

Not Early IMO but defenitely not late 57 as the quality is about in the middle. The eyelet is not doghnut shaped like the modern ones and the frame seems to be rather nice.

The Case who knows but my case is very similar and franly I am happy with it.

Oaks with swords are very late 57 production (match mine perfectly), All in all I believe it is worth the price. But.... If you want an early one like what Peter has a few of this is not the cross for you.

All in all, an original mid production 57er IMO (But I am no expert). Frame appears to be from good dies (Who knows if they are origninal war time but I suspect not) and not the modern junk dies.

For the money I'd say worth it if you are interrested, and can't wait for a show-stopper deal to come along.

-Shane

[Okrach]

Thank You !!!

Hallo Guys,

Thank You for support. I bought it I will sent some detailed pics as soon as it larrives. Damn, I hope I will be out of hospital by then - got f....ing serious knee injury and must be operated (already had to cancel my ski vacations in Austria) I am too young to have implants!

To Peter,
Yes, the Seller is an honest man indeed. The case is 1957 type one.

Once again GREAT thanks all of You who helped me out