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    Heer "Mouse Grey" wraps

    I recently acquired a mouse grey wrap from Mike at Virtual Grenadier. When I received it I was struck by how light weight the garment actually was. I read threads on these rare wraps here on the forum and immediately became fascinated with them. In many instances they were discussed within the context of 2nd pattern HBT and denim wraps. As far as I know, there are scant few examples surviving in collections today and true knowledge about them is scarce. I am starting this discussion in the hope that something more could learned about them. Mine is constructed of what appears to me as some sort of light weight cotton. Here are a few questions about the origins and nature of these garments that perhaps can be discussed further:
    1) Did the mouse grey wrap exist in a factory made configuration without the pocket?
    2) Is 1943 the earliest known date for the existance of these mouse grey wraps?
    3) mouse grey wraps are very light weight. Is it known if they served any unique purpose?
    4) Was the mouse grey wrap intended to be a strictly "warm weather" garment?
    5) Is it true that all known mouse grey wraps passed through the same depot?
    6) Are they simply a variation of the second model HBT family of wraps?
    7) Are surving photos of them in wear giving any concrete evidence as to where they were primarily used?

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    A picture of mine when it was for sale:
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      More pics
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        Another pic
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          #5
          Depot stamp
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            #6
            Pocket
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              National emblem
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                Buttons
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                  Collar tab
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                    #10
                    for you question 1), the answer is yes.
                    here are for instance well known pics of Oblt Ludwig :







                    derka

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                      #11
                      Is that the fellow who got CHEWED out by Manteufel and died on the field of battle shortly after ?? Billbert

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by ccnrecon View Post
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                        about rbnr 0/0314/0010 :
                        Gotlieb Hausbrand & Co.
                        Halberstadt (Prov. Sachsen)
                        Hindenburgstrasse 2
                        Textilfabriken und Textil-Grosshandel

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by billbert View Post
                          Is that the fellow who got CHEWED out by Manteufel and died on the field of battle shortly after ?? Billbert
                          i don't know.
                          if i am correct, those pics were taken in july 1944 in Normandy, few days before starting of operation "Goodwood".
                          Ludwig was then in command of a Kp. wich belonged to Pz. Jäg. Abt. 346 (StuG), the panzerjäger unit of 346 ID.

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                            #14
                            Beautiful wrap. Yes they were also mnufactured without a pocket (1st Model). The company also produced them in grey green material. I call it denim because it sorta reminds me of blue jean material. The mouse grey versions only appear to be manufactured as 2d models. Both the mouse grey and grey green versions all appear to be manufactured by the same firm and processed through the same depot. I posted my grey green and 1st Model mouse grey somewhere on the WAF? Jim

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                              #15
                              what was Ludwigs forst name? Nice wrap!

                              Kevin

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