Memel tip 4.
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Memel tip 4.
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My first memel
Originally posted by manu1972 View Post
Memel tip 4.
Onebody know the type or name of artist? ring no marked.
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manu1972, that looks like a fake to me.
Looks like the one Winkler sold the other day and was warned for here:
When the podium reaches all the way down, its a bad sign. Also, (Anthony is gonna get a heart attack now) you have a week "B" on it.
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Originally posted by VonPeter View Post
Peter, there's no "B" between the two men, only a "blob". This pattern of fake is different from the two known with the "B".
I suppose these with the "blob" were made from Souval post war, because some of them are marked L58 on the ring.
Just to avoid confusion the Memel posted from Manu is not a "Type 4", the Straight G type 4 is a Deumer.Last edited by Antonio Scapini; 10-04-2012, 04:26 AM.
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Glad to see you are still alive Antonio.
Here is the blob vs the B.
It looked to me like it hade the B (only B, not the O,3,8) but the fake mould hade been so worn down that only traces of the B remained, or that they hade tried to fix the flaw.
To bad the PAB-guys have already taken the name "Blobfake" for one of their fakes. It would have been a fitting name otherwise.
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For me, Souval post war.
As this Anschluss medal.... Souval post war.Last edited by Antonio Scapini; 10-04-2012, 06:55 PM.Comment
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To clarify some aspect about these medals I show a comparison between the:
"Long Podium" fake - "B" fake - unknown "B" Memel
The Long Poduim use the same front (with lack details) but a different back of the "B" Memel.
The "B" fake use the same front/back of the "B" Memel but with some die flaws easy to recognize and with lack details.
The "B" Memel made as the third shown in my pictures is until today a medal that remains unknown, no solid and unquestionable proofs about its originality or not.
Hope this help!
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my first Memel.
Hello friends. If you are also totally sure I'll talk to Winkler to return the medal. The truth is it is very expensive to be a copy of postwar.
Thank you very much everyone for your opinions and my apologies to Anthony if something bothered him about what I said. A greeting and thank you very much.Comment
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My first memel
Signs suspicious catching the ring. The songs do not seem to have the exact same thickness. It seems more in the area of the ring. And darkness.
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Is that an 8 or an more rounded B then the normal B´s on Iam Al Bandys medal?
manu1972, so it was the same medal after all... Let us know how it goes with Kai.Comment
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Good evening, Von Peter. Already I have written to him sendos e-mails saying to him that I want that I change... But it does not answer. The truth is that I am discontented. When they said to me that it was false already it had her full. And this agreement I made it be known at the moment of buying it: That was giving to myself the guarantee to amount of the money return or return it. But it did not answer me. Only he said to me unwillingly " I do not want to lose the time ". I could not imagine that I was fake. It is a lot of money and I am depressed. An embrace Von Peter.Comment
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Manu, I've told you several times this Memel was fake, but you didn't believe me. Now I hope you will have your money back, I think no one would be happy with a fake in collection.
Iam al Bandy, do you know the one you posted is a Souval because someone bought it from Souval in '60 or '70?
I have the '70s Souval price lists but there are no pictures on this list, only prices.
However the L/58 marking with the poor quality are quite enough indicators of the post-war production of the "Podium fake" Memel.Last edited by Antonio Scapini; 10-04-2012, 06:53 PM.
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Originally posted by Antonio Scapini View Post
I know, Antonio. You commented me. The problem is that I had already made the transfer of 300 € to Kai and I did not like those opinions as you will understand. You always try to be optimistic after paying that money and trusting person "prestigious" ... The medal I'm pretty sure that's not good. No longer the podium to detail. Chants of "money" does not always have the same thickness. For example in the zone along the ring. Apart from this I have three medals and flowers all have the right podium and right edges. I do not know if weight: 14.3 g of this medal is in keeping with the period. As I have understood this piece was minted in bronze. And it looks like bronze. Kai does not respond to my messages. Oddly because I always answered before I send this medal. Anyway, I'm not completely at ease with my Memel of Souval. It is beautiful and the tape is genuine. What is the age discrepable to be.
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Im not so sure about that, the ribbon looks new to me.Originally posted by manu1972
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