Der Fuhrer cyphers real or????

[RD Rygaard]

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[RD Rygaard]

[RD Rygaard]

Guys:

Any opinions on these Der Führer officer boards? I must admit these are out of my knowledge comfort zone. Any help greatly appreciated!

[John Pic]

I saw those on Ebay...they look like they might be good ones.

[RobertE]

These are tough, and I'm certainly no pro, but they look like they could be good. The detail is fine, the prong position (top and bottom), their thin appearance, and the general formation seems OK.

Even when these are off the boards, it's tough to say - but I like them.

s/f Robert

[militarymania]

I would vote no on these...the ends should be squared,not rounded,,too much space where the top of the F intersects with the D,top and bottom edges of the D should also be squared,not rounded and middle leg of the F should be tapered as it joins the main vertical line of the F,,too much material here at this point...just my opinion

[SJP]

I would vote no on these...the ends should be squared,not rounded,,too much space where the top of the F intersects with the D,top and bottom edges of the D should also be squared,not rounded and middle leg of the F should be tapered as it joins the main vertical line of the F,,too much material here at this point...just my opinion

I agree....cast copies IMHO. This "type" is also available in LAH.
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Cheers Steve

[RobertE]

I have owned several pairs or single examples of these, and there were variations on originals. It really makes it hard to determine originality on these when they are tightly attached to a board, since the reverses tell so much.

I don't recommend removing them, but can you see under an edge and determine if they are stamped or cast?

s/fg Robert

[John Pic]

I don't know if they are cast..there looks like some parts where the gilt is worn off them..and one has a flaw the other does not have. If they are they are very well done. A hands on would be best for these.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Ja

I don't know if they are cast..there looks like some parts where the gilt is worn off them..and one has a flaw the other does not have. If they are they are very well done. A hands on would be best for these.

My thoughts as well, I lean towards fake and I hate that piping. They need an in hand to dismiss.

[RD Rygaard]

My thoughts as well, I lean towards fake and I hate that piping. They need an in hand to dismiss.

Ill have them in 2 wks with a 14 day inspection period....theyre super cheap so why not take the chance, will keep you posted. piping reminds me of the piping on the gaberdine m43...... the seller seems like a decent guy.lastly, if these are bad, were are in for a rough ride here. This would take forgery to a whole new level. All the wear is consistant throughout ( esp. note the indents for strap buttons & lack of soil etc. If these WERE real, what could someone Realistically get for them?

[RD Rygaard]

I don't know if they are cast..there looks like some parts where the gilt is worn off them..and one has a flaw the other does not have. If they are they are very well done. A hands on would be best for these.

care to point out the flaw john? I cant seem to notice it.. Also does anyone have one with rock solid providence they can post for comparrison? regards, Richard

[John Pic]

May just be damage on the inside of the lower part of one F

[militarymania]

red arrows of concern...please forgive my sloppy attempt at the red arrows-they all point to what I believe are the cast flaws with the "DF" monogram,,,

[tgn]

Here is a real one for comparison.

Tom