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    K-98 ammo pouch. What do you think?

    Just starting to look at these for purchase, any comments would be great, thanks :
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    #2
    Looks like a nice almost unused poucg to me.....

    Do you have a close-up of the maker mark ? and are the deviders present ?

    Tom
    www.mp44.nl

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      #3
      Looks okay..and in good conditions.

      //Jacob

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        #4
        Possibly Postwar, all found are stone-mint and without date check this link (GREAT 98k pouch refference webpage - thanks to Stinch):

        http://www.stinch.com/militaria/k98_pouch_mfga.shtml

        Regards Sonnenwende

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          #5
          I was able to find it in the link you provided (thanks) under Manufacturers * A - B - C


          "ACKVA LEDERWAREN G.m.b.H. - "Bad Kreutznach - possibly post war; all pouches seen are in stone mint condition . No date present. WAF-119762, WAF-218743- See also LEDERWERKE KARL ACKVA A.G. BAD KREUZNACH (1936) and CARL ACKVA LEDERFABRIK BAD KREUTZNACH (1936-39), and CARL ACKVA BAD KREUTZNACH (1940-42)


          But I'm a little confused about what that means, is it a reproduction or something else?????? If it's a copy there's a whole other level of difficulty in getting anywhere in this hobby that I wasn't aware of,,,,,,, which will make it even harder than I thought ..
          Last edited by STRADALE; 04-17-2011, 08:45 AM.

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            #6
            Originally posted by MP44_tom View Post
            Looks like a nice almost unused poucg to me.....

            Do you have a close-up of the maker mark ? and are the deviders present ?

            Tom
            www.mp44.nl

            I don't. But believe it is stamped: ACKVA LEDERWAREN G.m.b.H

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              #7
              Not a copy (they do exist as well, but are easy to spot), but 98k pouches were made after the war for various countries that held large stocks of captured 98k´s. For instance the new Bundeswehr/BGS used these postwar pouches. Some of the postwar produced pouches are very difficult to spot, because they are presumeably constructed using leftovers from warproduction, likely on the same machinery that produced the pouches wartime. Factory Ackva also produced pouches during the war. I would stay away from this pouch and look for a 100% genuine example, they are still available for a reasonable price, using the webpage I showed you for refference, allthough not all makers are there, will be a big help.

              Good hunting!

              Regards Sonnenwende

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                #8
                Thanks for that Sonnenwende. Interesting.

                I was drawn to it's condition & similarity to a K-98 combat bayo/frog (that has similar stitching) that I just picked up............. I didn't look very long but so far haven't seen other pouches in this condition.

                Forgot to include - the right pouch is marked: "St. H. Sch. Abt. Nord II" under the lid. Dunno if this adds anything??

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                  #9
                  Interesting, a similar stamp in a 98k pouch has been discussed before without any conclusion. Could you have misread the "H." for "Gz"? A Photo would sure help, maybe it has something to do with the Bundesgrenzschutz (BGS)? Stab H. Grenz-Schutz Abteilung Nord II? Maybe you should try and post it in the Bundesrepublik Deutschland, 1949-Present discussion group.

                  Regards Sonnenwende

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                    #10
                    Hmm.. Googled it & found posted by Stinch:

                    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/FORU...d.php?t=265226


                    St. H. Sch. Abt. Nord II

                    vs>

                    1H Sch. Abt. Nord II

                    ???

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                      #11
                      Well, I´m just guessing, but I think the "Gr.?" they could not read because of the smudging is probably "Gz." = Grenz in that thread. "H." might stand for Hessen? Hamburg?. Also the small letter "ten" in front of the name-tag in that pouch does not suggest WW2 use. I think the Stamp there probably reads something like: 1. H.(-amburg/-essen??) Grenzschutz Abteilung Nord II (second group/coy??), which could suggest BGS use, but I´m no expert here.
                      Is something printed in front of the "Sch." in your pouch?
                      I still do not believe your pouch is WW2, but cannot say for sure

                      Regards Sonnenwende

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                        #12
                        Just my opinion but K98 pouches aren't rare. Any doubts I'd wait for another one to come along.

                        Cheers

                        Ian

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                          #13
                          Thanks for everyone's help, I passed.

                          If anyone can direct me to any good sites that may have K-98 pouches in great condition please let me know.

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                            #14
                            hello,

                            the stamp is: Stabshundertschaft Grenz Schutz Abteilung Nord II. It means BGS, technical "Hundertschaft" (like Company).

                            Regards,
                            EM

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