iron cross 1870 A type pictures

[Montgomery Burns]

this thread is ment fore pictures off the A type core 1870 iron cross

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collectors who want to contribute with pictures ( off there collection or else )
to the need off a data base off the A core 1870 iron cross
( and the different frames there are around .)

post here please

front off the ek is typical ,,,especially the godet crosses are often have iron cast problems ,as holes

frame are often wider frames as the Wagner crosses



the inner corners



backside shows fangs and an odd pin system ,,,

these wide frame godet have often variation in the pin system .
its a normal thing fore this type off cross


the typical godet mark


I also found a silver cup ,,with a dubble godet mark ,,
just in case you're wondering

[Biro]

(Maybe Don could tidy this thread up a bit now)

My contribution as follows...

EK1 A Type maker marked Wagner on Reverse

[Biro]

EK2 A Type Obverse...

[Biro]

EK2 A Type Reverse...

[Biro]

And my other EK2 A Type Obverse...

[Biro]

And my other EK2 A Type Reverse...

[Biro]

Clearly the frames of both the EK2's are different - good luck to whoever's going to do the legwork on comparing all these frames.

Marshall

[gregM]

Here is my 2nd class---

[gregM]

Marshall,
I am 99% sure that the one you posted (#14) is a Godet. The beading at the
inner corners is a match to my 1914 ek1 with fangs.

Check out the comparison--

[streptile]

My only one, and one of only two attributed EKs I own. A Wagner -- matched to "I. Wagner" marked EK1s by me -- a perfect frame match.

[Biro]

Sorry to interrupt fellahs - but if we are going to be checking out the beading on the frames it would probably be an idea to use one picture per post - thereby giving us the BIGGEST possible version of your images. The images posted here are less about appreciation and more about study, so if you can't see the frame and beading clearly, it's kinda redundant!

Brilliant crosses by the way!

Marshall

[streptile]

if we are going to be checking out the beading on the frames it would probably be an idea to use one picture per post ... The images posted here are less about appreciation and more about study

I didn't see anything about that Marshall. I really did think this was just a core-appreciation thread .

I know the frame on the one I just posted is a Wagner frame -- it's a match to I. Wagner marked EK1s, as I mentioned. I can try to make some better photos, and point out some of the distinctive characteristics of the frame I've noticed, including one easily identifiable tell-tale flaw. But it'll take some time.

[AlikN]

Here is my ek-2

[Montgomery Burns]

fore Michel

[Montgomery Burns]

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