EK1 L59 ~ first pin (rare) incl. LDO case

[5tefan]

What is your opinion?

[5tefan]

Here is the LDO case

[Steinar]

SUPERB Where do you get these beauties

[Douglas 5]

Hi 5tefan:
Nice Rettenmeyer EK1 in all aspects with a nice case as well !
If I may however advise to something very few here are aware of . This is a hard to find 1st bought pin set to replace Rettenmeyers original pin set .

Douglas

[ben bijker]

It reminds me of the Deschler KVK pin.....

[5tefan]

It reminds me of the Deschler KVK pin.....

It remind me more to L/15 Otto Schickle ;-)

But, I know that this is aslo 100% textbook of the first L59 Alois Rettenmaier pin ;-)

It is more rare than the Screw Back L59 !!!

[LuckyLuudje]

IMO this is just one of L/59 variants that have an early Deschler needle.
I rathwer would use the term harder to find than rarer.

Hi 5tefan:
Nice Rettenmeyer EK1 in all aspects with a nice case as well !
If I may however advise to something very few here are aware of . This is a hard to find 1st bought pin set to replace Rettenmeyers original pin set .

Douglas

Douglas I know you did an extensive study to these L/59's.
And that you know much more about these L/59's than I.
I suspect that Deschler provided thier needle setup to a few other makers like the L/56, L59.
Could it be that Deschler was the main supplier for these makers?

For instance this picture one of my earliest Deschler together with a solid silver L/59.
Pictures are the best I can make now, but it is exactly the same setup.

[Mike Yokum]

SPANK!

[Wik]

SUPERB Where do you get these beauties

Ya....exactly what I was thinking...where DO YOU get those?

[juoneen]

You borrow a pair from a friend that has two, and put them in a box...and come back in a few days and they make babies...(just kidding thats not really true). Its all the luck of the draw. keep hunting, and nice badge. whats the story on the pin replacement ? Didnt the original style hold up to combat wear or ?(whats the story)

[Douglas 5]

Hi Stefan :
As far as the L59 goes , the books are not up to date . I personaly had read the Re-call letter from Rettenmeyer . The recall letter was to get all the defective crosses back- in accordance with the LDO warranty - as after a few weeks the pin anchors started to break . The Hauptmann I bought the cross off of - replied to Rettenmeyer that he was keeping his and did not want to return it as it was a spare one to his issued 65 he had , which was to be sold with his uniform .
The recall was made right at the start - after a few weeks , not many were made and who knows how many they actualy exchanged . So this original Rettenmeyer pin is realy rare ! As said yours is the first bought pin type . He had waited so long for it and it was a special order ,... no wonder he did not want to give it back !!!! It is coin silver and plated 900 Ag . It has the silvermark ... the Diamond- on the pin !!! This is why I know that the Diamond is a Silver mark as stated in the letter .
Actualy this is a 'Double Treat ' - next to it on the right the true 1st - 'Ornamental Foot ' 26 EK1 pin set with the extra heave pin, as you can see . It happen to be the cross I had to make pictures of . Thicker than any pin ever made !! Thicker than the soldered halves together , thicker than Rettenmeyer !!
Note on the left - the anchor rod is very ,very small - smaller than on the on the 26 .
No realy formed anchor base on the L59 - just the thin ' crimpted' metal . It is an open crimp - just pushed up to the bottom of the small pin . No hold on one side ... just bends open . The left side is so thin and if moved back and forth quickly breaks !!!! Please note : The pin foot on the L59 is cut out of a SOLID piece , see the cut lines , to which the rod is pushed through and the needle is soldered to it .
The 26 on the right has a masive thick pin and wavy and open ornamental pin foot .
The anchor is taler and the crimping metal is thicker , and so is the anchor rod as you can see . More soldered surface to the cross and the open crimped metal is at the bottom and gets soldered shut when attached to the back of the cross . Over all the 26 anchor is wider , thicker and taller than the L59 .

A picture tells all .

Douglas

[LuckyLuudje]

It reminds me of the Deschler KVK pin.....

Maybe because it is a Deschler needle

[ben bijker]

Maybe because it is a Deschler needle

first time I see it on, and presented as, L/59...

[ben bijker]

It remind me more to L/15 Otto Schickle ;-)

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Please explain.
I have never seen this type of pin on an L/15

[5tefan]

It remind me more to L/15 Otto Schickle ;-)

But, I know that this is aslo 100% textbook of the first L59 Alois Rettenmaier pin ;-)

It is more rare than the Screw Back L59 !!!

What about the pin textbook of L/15 Otto Schickle ??? ;-)