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    EK I 1939 Clasp – real silver – L/52

    Hello:

    The Clasp to the EK I 1939 on the photos below is made from solid silver. It is marked “900” on the pin and "L/52” on the back of the eagle head for the marker C. F. Zimmermann in Pforzheim.

    To attention is the very much detailed manufacturing of the eagle.

    Detlev Niemann illustrated on page 510 in his Price Guide Orders and Decorations Germany a Clasp to the EK I 1939 in real silver marked with “800”.

    Does somebody have also a real silver Clasp to the EK I 1939 in his collection and could post photos here?

    Andy

    P.S. Bob Hritz is so kind to post as soon as possible three photos of the described Clasp here.

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    In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

    Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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      Posted for Andy K. Detail
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      In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

      Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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        Posted for Andy K. Verso
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        In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

        Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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          Posted for Andy K. Detail of hallmarking
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          In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

          Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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            #6
            Hi
            never ever seen an L/52 clasp, and never seen an 800 stamped clasp that I would consider original either.
            I also have never heard of L/52 being considered as a legit wartime manufacturer of spangen
            I wouldn't sleep well with this one in my collection, very well made, and good details, but reminds me of the latest eastern european fakes. Where/how did you get it?
            also
            I would be very interested to see the 800 one Detlev says is original, can someone post a pic?
            regards
            jon

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              #7
              Andy,

              You never cease to amaze me. What's hidden under the '1' in 1939?

              Robert
              Last edited by robert pierce; 02-03-2008, 11:04 PM.

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                #8
                Hello there,

                What's with all this silver?

                http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=268334

                I still don't buy either.

                William Kramer
                Please visit my site: https://wehrmacht-militaria.com/

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by robert pierce View Post
                  Andy,

                  You never cease to amaze me. What's hidden under the '1' in 1939?

                  Robert
                  Hello Robert:

                  The small bar under the "1" is a flaw. That is the only fault at this piece.

                  The pieces I here in the forum show are the result of around 30 years collecting activity. Approximately 80 percent of all pieces in my collection I have either acquired directly from the families of the recipients or from very good collector friends which acquired it for its part directly from the families of the recipients.

                  I acquired this silver marked Clasp before approximately 10 years of a good friend, who it got directly from private property. I don’t have any doubts to the genuineness of the Clasp.

                  Andy

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                    #10
                    Andy,

                    Very unique. 'Private property', meaning vet acquired or from vet's family?

                    Could we please see a close-up of the maker mark, 'L/52'?

                    Robert

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                      #11
                      IMO im not so sure this is wartime, could be postwar, looks like the same metal used in the production of a fake 1870 iron cross 1st class that i bought, i could be wrong though obviously

                      James M

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by robert pierce View Post
                        Andy,

                        Very unique. 'Private property', meaning vet acquired or from vet's family?

                        Could we please see a close-up of the maker mark, 'L/52'?

                        Robert
                        Hello Robert:

                        Private property means in this case acquired from vet’s family.

                        The marker stamp “L/52” was set doubles. This means that the marker stamp was too weakly set at the first time, so that it was again marked but not exactly at the same place. In the photo above one can already recognize it.

                        Tomorrow I will try to make a detail photo of the marker mark.

                        Andy

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Andy K. View Post
                          The marker stamp “L/52” was set doubles. This means that the marker stamp was too weakly set at the first time, so that it was again marked but not exactly at the same place. In the photo above one can already recognize it.
                          Like this...
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                            #14
                            Andy,

                            Is there any way of finding out if this spange was a period piece? Please forgive me for being sceptical. It's just that this is the first time I have seen this particular piece. I didn't know Zimmermann produced wartime spanges. Obviously, if it's period, it must be private purchase. I'm very interested in the maker mark, yes. Does it differ in any way with Zimmermann's original wartime stamp?

                            Robert
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                              #15
                              Nice spange but I also have my doubts...

                              Why the people can't do the esvastic right?

                              was the most important simbol for the 3rd Reich and then... if you compare it with the others spanges, this one is imperfect

                              A comparison with a BH spange without veins:
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