feldflasche/canteen: tropical,DAK,late war or...?

[Zeller]

I never found a canteen like this one before. Maybe its just my lack of knowledge,but anybody could tell me about it?
thanks

[JPhilip]

Hello,
this is a nice german WWII canteen with web strap and odd cup, maybe a good one green repainted (or postwar). Would be much nicer with a bakelite cup...
it could have been used in Africa, Ostfront, Italy, Balkans, Westfront in 1944, in fact everywhere a german soldier did go from 1942 to 1945

[Zeller]

Hello JPhilip, what about the canvas strap? I do have other german canteens but this is the first time i see one like this.
THanks

[Soldat de Fer]

Hello
The web strap could be a replacement.
All the mint canteen I have seen with web straps ,also had the web little thingy ( I can't remember there name ).
What most collector don't realize ,is that a lot of canteen have been messed with parts replaced ,etc...
I buy them and collect them only mint ,unaltered ,the same way thet left the factory ,. Mind I also like the worn type too ( but they have to be untouched)
Still a nice canteen. ,and like JPHILIP as mentioned ,is the cup maker marked ?
Best Regards
Pierre-Yves

[Zeller]

the canteen is not yet in my hands.
Here are some other photos,though

[Zeller]

i made a little search and i found another one which looks like the twin of the one i posted before

[19BARBAROSSA41]

basenordest - did you ever seen in the past any of tropical canteens ??? I asking cause from your post it appears that you never knew anything about existance of canteens with webed straps . if I'm right in my speculations then you need to learn a lot. All 2 types all tropical use ( and other fronts too ) canteens and that kind of canteen were produced from 1941 to the end of war. First one you posted is mountain troops ( 1L) canteen with webed strap and second one is typical tropical canteen ( 0,8 L).

[Wesley's Dad]

Canteens

I like to see the aluminum bottle and cup match. The other components do not need to bare the same maker as the metal components to be "unmessed with" or "factory original" in my opinion.

Component sourcing has been part of manufacturing since... well, the dawn of mass production. Canteen covers and straps can just as often carry the mark of thier original souce manufacturer, not the factory that actually completed the final product. A minty canteen carrying more than one maker across dissimilar components is just as "correct" in my opinioin as one with all components marked for a single maker.

[Soldat de Fer]

I like to see the aluminum bottle and cup match. The other components do not need to bare the same maker as the metal components to be "unmessed with" or "factory original" in my opinion.

Component sourcing has been part of manufacturing since... well, the dawn of mass production. Canteen covers and straps can just as often carry the mark of thier original souce manufacturer, not the factory that actually completed the final product. A minty canteen carrying more than one maker across dissimilar components is just as "correct" in my opinioin as one with all components marked for a single maker.

Hello
Maybe so but all the mint canteen I own ,owned or handled , were all matching ,except the late war ones ,which did have a minimum of markings.
Some parts were contracted outside ,like the wool cover on post #5 ( you can see the original maker marks) and "JSD" would then apply there stamp.
For me a canteen has to be matching ,but that is just me.
Best Regards
Pierre-Yves

[Zeller]

Barbarossa,you are right, I have to learn alot. We never stop learning and that is good
I got dozens of canteens found here, for mountain troops, with bakelite,aluminium or steel becher, with good/poor quality leather straps, but this is the first time i find a becher like that and a mountain troops canteen with tropical straps. As I stated in my original post, maybe its just my ignorance
I thought that DAK troops used this type of canteen in bakelite

[19BARBAROSSA41]

this type of canteen which very often called "coconut" were NEVER in use in North Afrika !! I haven't seen any of this canteens on period made photos from North Africa. This type of canteen were used in Italy, Greece , in Russia or in Western Europe but NEVER in North Africa. there many photos showing that in North Africa were used normal canteens , the same models as in Europe ( specialy on begining of African campagne ) and letter canteens with webed straps. I don't know who started calling coconut canteens as DAK canteen but he was definately wrong cause there is no proof that they were used in North Africa.

[Zeller]

could you post some wartime photos of the first canteen ?
thanks

[Alex Ciavaglia]

Ciao Matteo,
the 1st canteen you posted is absoluthly 100% unmanipulated and without any replacement. There was both models: with leather and with web straps sewed on the cloth. It's the only model that the Germans brought in Afrika. infact the Kokosnus model wasn't the standard Afrikakorps canteen; this is just a legend.
Alex

[Zeller]

some more pictures of my new canteen. Cup is unmarked though.

















It looks like a gebirgsjäger canteen, it's bigger than standard bottles.

[Alex Ciavaglia]

Hi Matteo,
the alu cup is post war.
Ciao,
Alex