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    #1

    Early Souval RK with L/52 stamp

    Dear Friends,

    I would be delighted to hear your opinions on my L/52 marked RK,known fake I preassume...

    (Case has been discussed in other thread:
    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=113104)

    Obverse:


    Regards,
    Jani
    Attached Files
    Last edited by jani_tiainen; 08-04-2005, 02:14 PM. Reason: Stupid mistake
    - Military historian and dealer from Finland.
    - Collecting Finnish awards, German EK1's 1939, KVK1's w/o swords and Tirolian shooting badges.
    I still need EK1's L/14 Screwback and Pinback.
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    reverse
    Attached Files
    - Military historian and dealer from Finland.
    - Collecting Finnish awards, German EK1's 1939, KVK1's w/o swords and Tirolian shooting badges.
    I still need EK1's L/14 Screwback and Pinback.

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      #3
      obverse
      Attached Files
      - Military historian and dealer from Finland.
      - Collecting Finnish awards, German EK1's 1939, KVK1's w/o swords and Tirolian shooting badges.
      I still need EK1's L/14 Screwback and Pinback.

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        #4
        Ring reverse, you can clearly see 800 and L/52 stamps. First I thought this to be early Souval fake, but it seems to be total L/52 fake...
        Attached Files
        Last edited by jani_tiainen; 08-04-2005, 02:14 PM.
        - Military historian and dealer from Finland.
        - Collecting Finnish awards, German EK1's 1939, KVK1's w/o swords and Tirolian shooting badges.
        I still need EK1's L/14 Screwback and Pinback.

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          #5
          Ring from the top
          Attached Files
          - Military historian and dealer from Finland.
          - Collecting Finnish awards, German EK1's 1939, KVK1's w/o swords and Tirolian shooting badges.
          I still need EK1's L/14 Screwback and Pinback.

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            #6
            Sideview
            Attached Files
            - Military historian and dealer from Finland.
            - Collecting Finnish awards, German EK1's 1939, KVK1's w/o swords and Tirolian shooting badges.
            I still need EK1's L/14 Screwback and Pinback.

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              #7
              Measurements are exactly as Detlev States "20" Zimmerman to be 48,8 x 55,2 mm.... But "1939" tells the difference... ring tells the difference...

              I was stupid enough to examine the case first and then looked at the Cross, which looked like Souval at first hand... for me....from a distance...

              Did I just try to buy post war Souval (fake)... and somebody sold me Zimmerman fake?

              That's how learn...

              Jani
              - Military historian and dealer from Finland.
              - Collecting Finnish awards, German EK1's 1939, KVK1's w/o swords and Tirolian shooting badges.
              I still need EK1's L/14 Screwback and Pinback.

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                #8
                Jani, it's a run of the mill Souval! It appears however to have been augmented by the addition of the '800' stamp which distorted the frame slightly!
                Regards,
                Dave

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dave Kane
                  Jani, it's a run of the mill Souval! It appears however to have been augmented by the addition of the '800' stamp which distorted the frame slightly!
                  ...Thats how we learn... somehow RK's just make me feel like a twister in my head...

                  Thanks mates!

                  Jani
                  - Military historian and dealer from Finland.
                  - Collecting Finnish awards, German EK1's 1939, KVK1's w/o swords and Tirolian shooting badges.
                  I still need EK1's L/14 Screwback and Pinback.

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                    #10
                    No loop?
                    George

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                      #11
                      No regular loop - though most interesting "loop". I'll send pictures as soon as the former owner finds that thing ... I am still waiting...

                      He said it looked like custom made "device" to hang cross with proper way, nicely made of metal wire.

                      I'll be back.

                      Jani
                      - Military historian and dealer from Finland.
                      - Collecting Finnish awards, German EK1's 1939, KVK1's w/o swords and Tirolian shooting badges.
                      I still need EK1's L/14 Screwback and Pinback.

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                        #12
                        Okay! I look forward to seeing it!
                        George

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                          #13
                          George,

                          This is how I got the set. There has been loop sometimes - propably with oaks as seen in bending on interior cover.

                          The strange thing must be something to hold on ribbon on correct position, but I do not know how it could work. It has been there already when the former owner got the cross - loop was already missing.

                          Regards,
                          Jani
                          Attached Files
                          - Military historian and dealer from Finland.
                          - Collecting Finnish awards, German EK1's 1939, KVK1's w/o swords and Tirolian shooting badges.
                          I still need EK1's L/14 Screwback and Pinback.

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                            #14
                            Close up1
                            Attached Files
                            - Military historian and dealer from Finland.
                            - Collecting Finnish awards, German EK1's 1939, KVK1's w/o swords and Tirolian shooting badges.
                            I still need EK1's L/14 Screwback and Pinback.

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                              #15
                              close up2
                              Attached Files
                              - Military historian and dealer from Finland.
                              - Collecting Finnish awards, German EK1's 1939, KVK1's w/o swords and Tirolian shooting badges.
                              I still need EK1's L/14 Screwback and Pinback.

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