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    #46
    about WW2 unit flags

    Originally posted by WWIIBuff View Post
    ...The stitching for example was done by two women at a time. Each was on the oposite side of the section of silk suspended from above. They would pass the needle through the silk to the person on the other side who threaded it back through.
    <CENTER>Actually the German lady on the other side was doing
    her own work on her side of the flag, and was also there to make sure that stitches didn't come through from the other side - 3rd Reich Heer Fahnen, like Imperial period examples had separate layer mirror image eagles on both sides, kind of like a pillow case, with only the background region outside of the center wreath being of a single thickness of silk. WW2 US Army Eagle pattern unit flags were done on a single thickness of background silk throught, so they were actually harder to embroider that the Nazi Army unit flags, using 200 colors of thread and 45 days of work on a "color", and 30 days on a "standard". The German Army unit flag eagle is rather bland color wise in comparison with a US unit flag of the same period, thus why I like the US eagle workmanship even more. <center>
    <img src=http://home.att.net/~gullcottage/RZMeistr.JPG></center>

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    Last edited by oldflagswanted; 10-26-2007, 11:50 PM.
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      #47
      All of them are a good start!

      All this took about 15 years to find the parts to put this together.

      So here we go
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        #48
        I put the pieces on the floor, with no intention of course of driving nails into this because of the age and condition of the components say to me "please, we've seen enough already, put me back where you found me from!"

        Note often missing streamer ring.
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        Last edited by Rich Moran; 10-14-2007, 01:12 PM.

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          #49
          What is a standardt without it's top? Lost, looking for its cousin to hang around with!
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            #50
            And then, of course he needs to pole to carry the standardt with. This is for mounted troops.
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              #51
              After too many years apart another ensemble is back together.
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              Last edited by Rich Moran; 10-14-2007, 01:13 PM.

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                #52
                Life in a box and on a shelf, no more bad weather for this.
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                  #53
                  And the two people were who that made this?

                  We will never know, but one thing for certain is the staff who produced these turely were artisans. There is so much detail to doing this, I wonder how their fingers felt day in and day out pushing the needles with threads and wire.
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                    #54
                    So the reason for htis post is, the type of banner I like the best is the swallow tail designed banners.

                    The larger banners of course headed everyhting up, but in the breeze it was the swallow tail the troops followed and marched to.
                    And when the wind did stir these banners these ends flapped merrily in the wind dance.
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                      #55
                      Fringe.
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                        #56
                        My favorite is the red based swallow tail artillery swallow tail standardt.

                        Anyone might have an image of the mounted troops with one of these? It would be Stug crews if I am not mistaken. I have one of the earlier reference books on the Flags And Standardts of the Third Reich, there is an image there. That I have.

                        Sadly however, the battalion ring is to a infantary based artillery unit and not Stug. Would like to locate a Stug battalion ring, perhaps another 15 year or more search
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                          #57
                          Very, very nice assembly, Rich. Wow - 15 years!
                          Well done, congrats!

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                            #58
                            Rick , that is bloody lovely - I always appreciate because I can't afford !
                            Thanks for the look - great .

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                              #59
                              Am looking for the carrying strap or perhaps the dimensions of one if an original cannot be found for the pole shown. That is all that is missing from the grouping.

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                                #60
                                ...about the pole mounting of German unit flags

                                Originally posted by Rich Moran View Post
                                ...no intention of course of driving nails into this because of the age and condition of the components say to me "please, we've seen enough already, put me back where you found me from!" ...
                                <CENTER>Rich:
                                Cool photos of a rare Nazi flag! I never get tired of looking at such
                                works of art, even though sometimes viewed by others as being
                                objects from the dark side. Also I totally agree, putting such flags
                                back on their original poles using all those nails would be a mistake
                                in the long term due to the weight of the bullion embroidery on the
                                ever more fragile with time background silk material. WW2 flags will
                                soon be catching up with the fragile state of WW1 and earlier era
                                military unit flags, something that is common to all old flags made of
                                silk - a strong and pretty material when a flag is new, but a real
                                nightmare for the collector of old flags. Here is a view of a US Civil
                                War regimental flag that I've unrolled just once back thirty years
                                ago when it first arrived and not since because of the fragile silk material. One day even 3rd Reich unit flags will all be like this one too.</CENTER>



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                                Last edited by oldflagswanted; 10-15-2007, 10:37 AM.
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