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    Deschler B-Type variations:

    Looking at these B Type EK2s I came across a variation . Member Tyanacek here was kind enough to go over his cross with me then and supply pictures .
    The object of this study is to point out some frame and core variations that exist . I sat on this study for a many years . A different or modified die raised questions
    I did not have answers to ... at least until the Carl Wild die production in German was posted and and also obtained the Deschler book which confirmed a lot .
    As both dies are different a 'modification' had to have taken place . I have used the expression ' modified die ' in the past which can be misleading .
    Not the same production die is modified or aultered but a new die all together is produced . Changes to a allready hardened die cannot be made . Like in this case
    shown below ... for some strange reason the bead step was removed completely on type 2 .

    Already heard the question ... why is there a 2nd production dies for a short lived - 'doomed' design ??
    As the comparison will demonstrate ... some thing peculier about this type 2 - which leads at least me to believe ... it may or could have been made to supply/sell
    to another manufacturer . Changing a component - Deschler could use existing other tooling . Note here that everything - all tooling has been changed . ...
    frame die and core die with inside and out side trimming tooling ! Only a hand full and makers were involved in the early design stages .
    ( Thinking out loud : - That ... lug ...used on the type 2 Tyanacek provided --(rectagular in appearance) is used on early Junckers . )

    This type of core surface "pimpling" is seen on this B-Type EK2s only and reminds me of the surface of a KvK . The material of this type 2 seams
    to be silver plated 'something-aloy' and no longer silver . Being a cross going through developing stages probably accounts for sub-variations .
    Shallow and more pronaunced core feature strikes .. tapered and flat bottom Swastika - cutouts and very pointy and hardly pointy inside corners .
    The only cross ever made with the 'mistery dimples' !

    An observation that is interesting . 4 posts: starting with both types:

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          Hi Douglas,great information..Both dies from same master..
          witch B-type are more uncommon the first core or the second core?

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            By far less common are the 2nd frame and core .

            I see now what I left out earlier was the S mark on the jump ring and which has been seen on others ...

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              I was not going to mention this at firs t... also a strange stamped mark on the core on mine only .
              As the maker of the cross has been since identified - not sure what this could be ?? Design/proof mark ... who knows -( some resemblance to the S&L logo ) ?
              It has been painted over ... assume done at factory before painting ?
              Drawn out what the mark seams to look like . Stared at this for hours - but I am not removing the paint .
              Any one know what this could be ?

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