Interior trimming styles can create a different look to a period badge. I have numerous badges that are in this category in my collection since I wanted them as examples. I only needed one, but I have quite a few variants right now. I am specifically talking about the Schickle, Mayer, Zimmerman U-boat badges. I have them with sold swastikas, cut out, partially cut out, stamped, not stamped. You name it.
I am a specialty collector so those badges fall into my target area of interest. Same with various Schwerin Berlin products like their U-boat badges and HSF badges. The S-boat second pattern has trimmed and untrimmed flags and swastika and is another example.
If a collector notices a badge that is not exactly like 98% of the others that he has seen, he has every right to ask on this forum what it is and if it is OK. If it falls into his target collecting area then he might buy it, but he has the right to discuss it and those that are considering buying a badge also have the right to know that a particular badge is a variant from what is accepted as usual in that badge's production line.
I am really surprised that some feel this information should be kept secret from a buyer. Give them some credit for what they are looking at. Specialty collectors abound on this forum. I am one, Norm collects every single variant minesweeper out there, Hubert does too. There are a lot of us.
It sounds like some are more concerned about the sale of this badge than the discussion but sales are not the purpose of this forum. Estand is not the driving forum here, discussion forums are. Some have it backwards and while a number of dealer-members just use estand to sell with little contribution elsewhere (I am not talking about Bob who is a prolific contributor), but we know who they are, fortunately we still have members who keep this forum going through discussion posts.
I like Bob, been to his house, shared a drink or two with him, so this has nothing to do with him. If I had been trying to sell a badge on estand and somebody said "not for my collecton" on a discussion thread without explanation, I would be royally irritated. Or the famous "I have doubts".
This is not the case here. This HSF badge has gotten more attention than any in recent memory. I am confident, in spite of the negativity posted here about it not be sellable, that it will sell. Here on this forum, or at a show.
Bob is also armed with all the information on why it looks a tiny bit different in regards to trimming (just like Mayer, Zimmerman, and Schickle) and can more fully explain the badge to the collector who wishes to add it to his collection.
We must resist attempts to shut down discussion just because an item is on estand, being sold by a friend, being sold by a dealer that might have items for sale in the future and now you are on a blacklist (we remember those days), prominent collector, moderator, Life Member, whatever.
My opinion.
John
I am a specialty collector so those badges fall into my target area of interest. Same with various Schwerin Berlin products like their U-boat badges and HSF badges. The S-boat second pattern has trimmed and untrimmed flags and swastika and is another example.
If a collector notices a badge that is not exactly like 98% of the others that he has seen, he has every right to ask on this forum what it is and if it is OK. If it falls into his target collecting area then he might buy it, but he has the right to discuss it and those that are considering buying a badge also have the right to know that a particular badge is a variant from what is accepted as usual in that badge's production line.
I am really surprised that some feel this information should be kept secret from a buyer. Give them some credit for what they are looking at. Specialty collectors abound on this forum. I am one, Norm collects every single variant minesweeper out there, Hubert does too. There are a lot of us.
It sounds like some are more concerned about the sale of this badge than the discussion but sales are not the purpose of this forum. Estand is not the driving forum here, discussion forums are. Some have it backwards and while a number of dealer-members just use estand to sell with little contribution elsewhere (I am not talking about Bob who is a prolific contributor), but we know who they are, fortunately we still have members who keep this forum going through discussion posts.
I like Bob, been to his house, shared a drink or two with him, so this has nothing to do with him. If I had been trying to sell a badge on estand and somebody said "not for my collecton" on a discussion thread without explanation, I would be royally irritated. Or the famous "I have doubts".
This is not the case here. This HSF badge has gotten more attention than any in recent memory. I am confident, in spite of the negativity posted here about it not be sellable, that it will sell. Here on this forum, or at a show.
Bob is also armed with all the information on why it looks a tiny bit different in regards to trimming (just like Mayer, Zimmerman, and Schickle) and can more fully explain the badge to the collector who wishes to add it to his collection.
We must resist attempts to shut down discussion just because an item is on estand, being sold by a friend, being sold by a dealer that might have items for sale in the future and now you are on a blacklist (we remember those days), prominent collector, moderator, Life Member, whatever.
My opinion.
John
Comment