U-boat badge original? - Meybauer U-Boat Timeline

[Overlord1944]

Please opinions.

[Overlord1944]

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[Norm F]

Hi Overlord1944,

It's a good Meybauer zinc U-boat. It shows some variable hand finishing of the margins. Yours is the variant with the squared wire main pin as opposed to the round wire.

There's one unusual feature of yours - the large rectangular base plate under the hinge. Usually the hinge is attached without a base plate on these.

Here's the reverse view of one with the round wire main pain and no base plate under the hinge.

Best regards,
---Norm

[Norm F]

The L/13 maker mark is usually bigger on these zincers (see attached), but I've seen a small one like on your badge which interestingly was also on a square wire main pin variant.

Best regards,
---Norm

[Norm F]

I'm just noticing that the tombak versions I've seen use the squared wire main pin and the smaller maker mark. Perhaps the zincers with these features are earlier than the round wire, larger mark version?

Best regards,
---Norm

[Norm F]

Okay Guys, having looked things over a bit I think we can start to put together a brief Meybauer U-boat timeline as follows:

Type 1 - Tombak, cut-out swastika, hand-cut below the submarine, small maker mark, flattened-wire main pin; round-wire catch

Type 2 - zinc, cut-out swastika, hand-cut below the submarine, small maker mark, flattened-wire main pin; round-wire catch with base plate

2A - no base plate under hinge

2B - base plate under hinge (Only one example seen so far?)

Type 3 - zinc, cut-out swastika, standardized cutout below the submarine, large maker mark, flattened-wire main pin; round-wire catch with base plate

Type 4 - zinc, cut-out swastika, standardized cutout below the submarine, large maker mark, round-wire main pin; round-wire catch with base plate

Type 5 - zinc, solid swastika, standardized cutout below the submarine, large maker mark, round-wire main pin; round-wire catch with base plate

Type 6 - zinc, solid swastika, standardized cutout below the submarine, large maker mark, round-wire main pin; square-wire catch with no base plate

Best regards,
---Norm

[Norm F]

Type 1 - Tombak, cut-out swastika, hand-cut internal margins and around eagle head, small maker mark, flattened-wire main pin; round-wire catch

Type 2 - zinc, cut-out swastika, hand-cut internal margins and around eagle head, small maker mark, flattened-wire main pin; round-wire catch with base plate

2A - no base plate under hinge

2B - base plate under hinge (Only one example seen so far?)

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[Norm F]

Type 3 - zinc, cut-out swastika, standardized internal cutouts and around eagle head, large maker mark, flattened-wire main pin; round-wire catch with base plate

Type 4 - zinc, cut-out swastika, standardized internal cutouts and around eagle head, large maker mark, round-wire main pin; round-wire catch with base plate

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[Norm F]

Type 5 - zinc, solid swastika, standardized internal cutouts and around eagle head, large maker mark, round-wire main pin; round-wire catch with base plate

Type 6 - zinc, solid swastika, standardized internal cutouts and around eagle head, large maker mark, round-wire main pin; square-wire catch with no base plate

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[Norm F]

And here's a final comparison between a Type 1 Tombak and a Type 5 zincer to highlight the differences between early and late Meybauer U-boats.

You can see the hand cut margins on the Type 1 (which vary between examples) compared with the standardized cutouts of the later type which are done with a stamp. This same evolution of cutout technique is evident in the U-boat badges of C.E. Juncker from early to late.

You can also see the evolution from flattened-wire main pin to round-wire main pin and the change from the small maker mark L/13 stamp to the larger one.

Best regards,
---Norm

[BubbaZ]

Overlord1944,
I agree with Norm, nice Meybauer zincer

Norm, I thought you will work out in detail Schickle U-boats first
Very nice timeline Thanks for sharing, it should be pinned.
Cheers,
Hubert

[Norm F]

Overlord1944,
Norm, I thought you will work out in detail Schickle U-boats first

I got side-tracked! But it's all up here...

[John R.]

Outstanding Norm.

My badge, type 1.

John

[John R.]

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[John R.]

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