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    P. Meybauer

    Dear All FJ Badge Experts

    After Reading Tom's excellent book i now have doubt over this P. Meybauer badge! I wont go into details, I hope to see what others think. I will explain what can't easily be seen;

    a. the reverse of the wreath is curved but not chamfered on the edges.
    b. the pin is cylindrical
    c. the rivets have small 'pinches' at the tops
    d. the pin catch is offset slightly
    e. the catch is cleanly attached to the wreath
    f. the central catch barellel is smaller than the other two supporting barells
    g. the central catch barellel seems to be a different material
    g. the central catch barellel does not have the two horizontal lines as the
    support barells do

    I see no issue with the eagle , it looks 100% to me other than the crack in the tail but thas authentic!
















    I hope to get some good answers on this as Tom's book has opened my eyes to the tiny details!

    Cheers Mike
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    Hi Mike,

    Very good analysis! I am glad my book is already helping collectors weed out the good from the bad.

    I agree with you 100%, this badge is a reproduction in my opinion. The Meybauer Paratrooper badges are a favorite among the fakers for some reason, we see these copied to near perfect for many years now. But when you know what details to look for, these should hopefully be easier to spot.

    Here is a good thread we had previously on these fake Meybauers, identical to your badge and I have several more of these on file that I could post if need be:

    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...auer+fake+para

    One very important thing you left out of your analysis that should seal the coffin on your badge.........the dimensions. Did you measure your badge? I am willing to bet the dimensions are noticably smaller than the originals shown in my book and should be the confirmation you are looking for to go along with all your other points you mentioned alread.

    Tom
    If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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      Hi Mike,

      Here is another very good thread on these fakes:

      http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=meybauer+fake

      Tom
      If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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        Tom

        I'll get the measurements, but how does one identify issues with the eagle it looks spot on to me and no signs of castings?

        looking at the other threads another sign is a folded catch block instead of being milled, mine has folding. I've also noticed that the originals all seem to have a smaller circular base than the fake one.

        I'm struggling with the concept of being unable to identify a good eagle and a bad wreath visually unless there is a way of visually identifying the eagle being bad?

        I guess I need to buy some micro scales and weigh the little bugger, more kit to carry at militaria shows!!

        Also these fakes must have been made some time ago as the patina is spot on! I think this one came from DN but he's gone now......


        Mike
        Last edited by 15parabattalion; 02-18-2011, 08:28 AM.

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          Hi Mike,

          The eagle is the easy part. How many badges do you know of that have a fake, cast wreath and fake reverse hardware but were made with an original eagle?? By process of elimination, if the eagle happens to look OK, but everything else is wrong on the badge, then I would contend the badge is "not correct"

          But this is a mute point, because there are problems with the eagle as well. Firstly, the maker mark stamping is a good bit weaker than we find on original Meybauer's (result of the casting process IMO). Also look at the edges of the swastika, they are much more rounded and soft compared to originals.

          Tom
          If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

          New Book - The German Close Combat Clasp of World War II
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