its amazing its in such good shape as is though, i cant believe the tracks wheels turned even....
that would look SWEET in my front yard... just saying!
that would look SWEET in my front yard... just saying!
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Hi,
It's always a shame to see them end up like this,as for the remains of the crew i doubt that they ever got out the crew compartment appears to have been penetrated no sure by what round it is rather neat? the last place to be is inside .
on another point i been looking for a local tank for years and to my knowledge it's still in the scrapyard.
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Looks to be a hit from an anti-tank rifle. ( 12.5mm )
Certinly it has penetrated, not sure if that could be considered
a knock out round. Certainly I would not like to have been inside
with sharpnal pinging about.
Cheers,
JohnComment
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Restoration in reverse...
JohnComment
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Found the whole thing fasinating and then felt sickened by those muppets destroying such an historic German tank. would have been best left, plus they went to great lenghts to find it and drag it out for the world to see only to cut it up for scrap soon.
Reminds me of a fairly wealthy scrap dealer in the UK who used to crush old 1920-30 cars when I was a Kid, I wanted them aswell!Comment
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Very sad storie i to beleve that it should have been left in the ground
I work at a military museam and fortinuatly we keep out tanks and vehicals in good shape not like how Aberdiene Proving Grounds usto keep their rare pieces of militaria....rusting away exsposed the the elements year round...All very sad stories
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Used to. Rare does not necessarily valuable. Back in the 60's and 70's German stuff wasn't as valuable or rare for that matter. you could pick up a K-98 in a magazine the way you can get Mosin nagants. today, Now that they are more valuable historically and monetarily they are being preserved.Originally posted by Mccallion View PostComment
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Interesting video, is incredible how is survived in the mud.
LucaSiam fatti cosi!Comment
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Originally posted by SLIM View Post
That's the least of its problems. The original paint was covered over by the 1950s and the new pattern is a pretty good reconstruction.
The real change is the engine. The original was cut open and displayed in the museum, obviously not usable again. But they removed lots of small parts to get the tank moving with a similar engine.
The similar engine, not being exactly the same, would not fit. So a lot of levers and connectors related to the underwater ability of the Tiger, were left out and cannot be replaced now.
And the worst of it; to get similar engines and parts, they raided other tanks in the Museum; the King Tiger and Jadgtiger. These were good examples of the development of German tank engines, each with different features introduced as time passed. Somebody could have studied them and written a book. Too late now.
This whole project was justified, years ago, as a way to make money for the museum. Sacrificing some of the artifacts to preserve the rest, that kind of thing. The Tiger would draw in the crowds, tickets would be sold, a profit would be made. But now they have a special appeal for money JUST to keep the Tiger rolling, so I guess the whole project was a failure?
DavidLast edited by DavidByrden; 05-26-2010, 02:51 AM.Comment
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Restoration is always destruction ... the same way as an archeologist always destroys most of the cultural traces when he excavates a historic place. As the historic information is not only in the artifact itself - this is only some percent of all information - his job is only done right when anything is documented 150%.
So you always have to decide if a restoration will bring any scientific or economic benefit which compensates this loss ... If you decide to restore something you should document anything possible even if it is of no actual sense - maybe it is of mayor interest later on or of interest for other people....
Regards,
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