study off my first ek 1813

[Montgomery Burns]

as many members already know I did buy this cross on the E stand ,,and this cross comes with a COA off Detlef Niemann..

well ,,,,as this is my first ek 1813 I rely had to get used to the complete different feel an appearance off the cross holding in my hand ...it lead to a complete new way off looking at the things
and it lead to destroy my first plan not to boarder you guy's with it as it is already well presented here on WAF before .


it lead to nice and surprising close look at this cross ,,that I want to share with you guy's in the following few picture I post ..

hope you like it
regards kay

[Montgomery Burns]

first I wondered about how Detlef Niemann knew this is an original ?
how do people like him judge this ek ,,,?

and started to have a closer look at the cross and found a simple logic fact to be the kee to hold in mind as I was looking

197 year old ek must have age showing in a very special way ..
and the production and design difference must be very different from later versions off the ek

and i took a closer look at the frame and found it to be very different to later crosses
first
the rims are showing that they are almost cornered ,not rounded .



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[Montgomery Burns]

second ,,,I noticed a uneven rim distribution ,,that made me thing its real old handiwork off an ( first )product ,,without old product knowledge a jeweller could benefit from .

[Montgomery Burns]

the other thing was the ageing signs ,,that I see only just by very close looking ..

no way a copier can make that happen in a fake produced ek ..

a long and old crack in the rim ...

cracks in the corners ,,even a few as thinner as a hear ..

wonderful

[Montgomery Burns]

about the golden collar


I found out that silver is not reacting with moisture in the ear ,,but with sulfer and chlorides

bringing two kinds off oxidation off the silver ,,, zilversulfide that is brownish and grey

and silvergloride that can get to yellow golden collared ...as happened on this cross ,,,,

all in all troe the process I became fond off this cross and his age ,,like a old painting off an old worker or farmer family in the old day's

hands with skin as raw as a wild mountain landscape ...

the cross is jst like that ,,,something you wont get with crosses after 1870..

the end

[Montgomery Burns]

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[VtwinVince]

Nice wide frame example, Kay, congratulations. You're right about not being able to fake that sort of aging. I recently picked up my first example as well, produced about 1830-1840. The nice thing about these early EK's is that no two are the same.

[Montgomery Burns]

offcours DN compared it to other examples he must had in his files or head ,,or at hand ,,,but without these signs off age and ware ,,,it wood be very difficult .

regards kay

hope you like it ,,and I did my homework well








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[streptile]

Hello Kay,

Very interesting presentation, and a very nice 1813 EK2.

I agree that the design and construction peculiarities of these early crosses make a fascinating contrast to the later ones, especially to the 20th C. EKs, which are so sleek and polished by comparison.

There used to be a group called the "Holy Grail Club" -- members who owned an 1813 EK2. Welcome to the Club, my friend.

[gregM]

Nice cross Kay

There used to be a group called the "Holy Grail Club" -- members who owned an 1813 EK2. Welcome to the Club, my friend.

Members come and go as crosses are bought and sold or as members disappear.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ighlight=grail

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ighlight=grail

Greg

[streptile]

There it is... someone ought to begin a new outing of the Holy Grail Club, to see where we are now.

It's always a pleasure to see the boys assembled.

[gregM]

There it is... someone ought to begin a new outing of the Holy Grail Club, to see where we are now.

It's always a pleasure to see the boys assembled.

Good idea

[VtwinVince]

Guess I'll have to apply for membership.....

[Montgomery Burns]

Hello Kay,

Very interesting presentation, and a very nice 1813 EK2.

I agree that the design and construction peculiarities of these early crosses make a fascinating contrast to the later ones, especially to the 20th C. EKs, which are so sleek and polished by comparison.

There used to be a group called the "Holy Grail Club" -- members who owned an 1813 EK2. Welcome to the Club, my friend.

well I do not think I am able to be .....appropriate ....fore membership in that club .

first off all it feels unfair to me to separate my self from other WAF members in a special (golf club) just because I am able to buy such a expensive ek

beside that
I do not consider my self to be a true ek collector so much
as more an investigator off Iron cross production and application ..
this cross is strictly fore investigation and learning
and will go in the end (as the market normalise ) to a true hardcore collector off iron crosses
so..................


regards kay

[Montgomery Burns]

well I came back on that opinion ........

I cursed myself to be a collector ,,
no matter what crazy opinion coming up my mind some time,,,, not to be,,,

I am even going after a second one,,without being able to sell this one,,,, as I just cant say goodbye to it in the end .

nonetheless I salute you all fore the nice responses you gave me .....as I didn't mean to be disrespectful

regards kay


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