I want to show this pieces again, with much better photos. I am 100% convinced that these are very rare original pieces. I think cyphers and RZM tag are 100% original. I think you agree with me that those are really rare. Its not my field of collecting because I dont collect insignia.
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Go to a Dentist......
,,,,,, if you cannot observe the underside of the insignia and have him xray them and see if they are stampings or casting. sometimes you can tell the difference in densities of cast versus stamped metals. Good Luck! GregComment
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I like teh way they look,they scream real to me.Anyhow,does the widths of the prongs matter on these?both are different,did more than one maker do these?Comment
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Early Cyphers
I am only aware of Deschler M1/52 marked made of CuPal. Aluminum tops with a flat copper backside.Originally posted by wewelsburg View PostComment
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Even considering the odds, I'd still take my chances on both of these boards...Comment
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whats the story behind these?
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Cyphers
I would risk carefully taking one off to see the underside.Comment
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Hersteller 38 is known to have made Allgemeine boards with SS-VT cyphers.
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Story behind these is that I bought it from Vets family. Soldier served in the LAH. I still got his Adolf Hitler and Deutschland Cufftitle wich I sold on e-stand a few days ago. By the way, the two cap eagles I am selling on e-stand at the moment belonged to him too.Originally posted by maestro View Postwhats the story behind these?Comment
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lah
I do like these cyphers at all, on the front they totally lack the detail found on originals, made of the wrong material, and finally the pin configuration is not like the original pattern .
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I am not trying to pick fly poop out of pepper here but those are NCO cyphers on Officer boards which seems a bit odd. Officer cyphers in the model pictured were made in gold just at the second model was.
The cyphers pictured were and are reproduced in Europe somewhere. I have a pair of silver ones that match perfectly to those pictured and have a few pairs in gold that match up to those pictured. The only difference I see is the prongs on the repros are actual straight 90 degree circular prongs where those pictured have the same prong as the second model cypher.Comment
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Oh thats intersting... in that case a few well known dealers and well known SS collectors are wrong with ther opinions.
Guys, I am 100% sure that these pieces are 100% originals
But why discussing? If you have 100% same Cyphers that are fakes, let us see.Comment
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