Africa campaign Award MM's?

[Al P]

Pull out your Afrika campaign awards and take a look at the MM as well as the designer name. I have noticed that there are at least 2 different types and was wondering if there was a reason why? Early vs late perhaps.

Notice the last letter (S) and its shape.


Al

[Al P]

On the MM there also appears to be different spacings to the letters between the 2 types.

Any ideas or more examples?


Al
most of the pics are borrowed, if there is a problem let me know and I will edit accordingly.

[mrg]

Hi Al, you are right there were two types of these awards early and late (Bruntmetal and Zinc). To my knowledge the early ones had the raised mm. Two manufacturers produced these awards the one you have and the other less common one being sons of milan. Sorry i cant post pics and am not at home to view my own early verson. so i may be sticking my neck out on this.
All the best.

[mrg]

Hi Al, have just got home and checked out my early bronze Africa medal, De Marchis below the croc is incused not raised as i first thought. Whilst Lorioli Milano is raised. Have just corrected this thread. Too little time, too many kids . Anyone else?

[Dale B]

Hello, I have a Afrika campaign medal, bronze with raised MM, BUT the Lorioli Milano is on the right side of the medal above the crocs. arm is this OK. From the pics. it looks like the Lorioli Milano looks to be on the left side.


Thanks Dale B

[Brian Dentino]

I have an Afrika medal that I posted here a while back and was told that it was not good. My MM on mine is above the crocs left arm and is fairly worn down. Here is a picture, sorry that it is not the best quality but it is the best that my little digi will do. I would love to hear a few more opinions on this. I believe that it is authentic and just a little worn down but do not know for sure. Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Brian Dentino

[Al P]

I was hoping the 'heavy hitters' would contribute to this thread as there is much confusion as to what is original.

The example I have is an exact match to the one Seba owns (owned) and at least 1 other out there with great provenence but there are many others that do not match. It would be nice to put this to a good discussion and come up with a consensus.

Al
Brian, what does the designer name on your look like?

[mrg]

Hi Dale, Lorioli Milano on the vast majority of originals is on the left hand side, above the crocs foot. Early FAKES had this mm on the right hand side and were made from a white base type metal(not saying yours is a fake), however i have never seen one of these with mm on the right side. Hope this is of some help.

[mrg]

Hi Brian, hard to tell from those pics but going off the mm alone the signs are not good. MM looks too thick and lasks the crispness of the orignal mm. If the rest of the medal is fine with no other wear you have to ask yourself why only the mm is affected.Sometimes this is done to hide a fact. Can you show pics of the full award? All the best.

[Dale B]

Hello, mrg thanks for the reply, mine looks to be made of the white base metal you are talking about. I did not have a good feeling about it. I got it from Manions a few years ago. Need I say more!!!!! Thanks for the info.

Dale B

[Al P]

Bringing this back up. I know there are a few more of these out there.


Al

[Tony C]

Afrika Medal

Here's my version, silver in colour. The scans don't do it justice, details are very fine and alot 'brighter' when its in your hand. All lettering on mine is raised.
Question....was the silver version just a late war zinc issue or was there a totally seperate class of these things?

Thanks....Tony

[Tony C]

and again...

[Bruce Simcox]

Here's my......

......solid bronze Afrika medal. Note the raised relief mm on the right side. I have no reason to question the authenticity of this piece, but I am always open to critique.

Hope you like it. I do.

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Bruce

[Al P]

I never discounted the right side named pieces as some have, yours is a great example.

Any possibilty of closeups on the 2 marks?

Al