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    Opinions please - tunic "restoration" . . .

    Everyone,

    It seems like this would be fun to do once, so here goes . . .

    I would appreciate all of your opinions on how best to "restore" this tunic. I have considered using the insignia that I currently still have on hand, and re-incarnating this tunic into an Untersturmfuhrer's tunic for Artillery in the LAH - but I am not quite sure if this combination would offer the most personal reward. Ordinarily, I tend to prefer the slightly more obscure, and am not sure if such a "run-of-the-mill" combination would be that interesting to me . . . I know many members of the LAH utilized summer-weight tunics, as did many other divisions - would it be fitting to use an RZM cuffband, or BEVO? LAH or another division? What would be the most logical combination, but yet still quite intriguing in your personal opinons? Any other opinions would be greatly appreciated.

    I have thought about this long and hard for many months now, and I guess it's time to begin my "quest" - in your own opinion, what do you think would be the best combination of insignia to use?

    Thanks in advance,

    Brad
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    Insignia . . .
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      Shadow left for cuffband - I don't have a cuff currently, but with any luck, I will be shopping soon . . .
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        I would post more pics, but it's taking way too long tonight for some reason . . .

        Anyhow, you get the idea - please let me know what you think!

        Brad
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          Hi Brad, I think the Insignia would be fine for the tunic, If I was to restore it I would use a RZM cuff title for this one.

          Regards
          Lars

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            Originally posted by Lassi View Post
            Hi Brad, I think the Insignia would be fine for the tunic, If I was to restore it I would use a RZM cuff title for this one.

            Regards
            Lars
            Lars,

            Thanks for your input!

            I have been leaning towards a nice LAH RZM cuff for a while now . . . I'm just not certain about the LAH part.

            Brad

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              Personally I am a little bit puzzled by the tunic... even though it does look neat!
              I don't like the pocket shapes and pocket flaps (size) don't match each other on the breast...(one is taller...sloppy tailoring?)
              and angled pocket corners reminds me of LW... like something you would expect with LW tunics(and KM)....definately not SS...
              but who knows...? It does have the proper 5 button front pattern, which is a good sign, BUT with no belt supports
              (OK for officers I guess...but on the other hand it lacks officer's style French cuffs...for it to be an officer's tunic)
              and made in ribbed cotton....so privately tailored? if for an officer, why no French cuffs?
              Also the buttons do not look like hollow combat style pebbled buttons....Solid ones? possibly postwar, they don't match the
              shoulderboard buttons (no big deal really)... So with those issue areas, perhaps a sun bleeched remake?

              If genuine WW2 could it be something entirely different? Like maybe a WW2 TeNo light weight tunic?
              (no combat belt support provisions) Ghosts of insignia could match TeNo also! They wore cuff titles also!
              BUT all the combat medal loops would prove against this theory...but those could have been added...

              So even though I am not entirely convinced about this piece...has plusses and minusses... I do like it !!
              (it has good signs, like proper tapered cuff slit opening stitching and not so good areas like the pocket construction)
              I hope that I'm totally wrong about my doubts and that its 100% genuine. Just never seen this cut before!

              It would look really nice with that insignia as a junior SS officer even though it lacks French cuffs.
              Any stamps inside it ? or any history on it? Provenance?
              Mixed thoughts about it... but I would take a chance on it as an SS piece if the price was right!

              So please show us pictures when its finished! A neat project for sure. My vote: LAH artillery!
              Thanks for sharing!
              Last edited by NickG; 10-11-2008, 01:55 AM.

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                angled pocket corners on Waffen SS tunic

                Any other examples out there of light weight Waffen SS tunics with angled pocket corners (in the style of LW and KM)...?

                A Wehrmacht privately tailored DAK Pzr tunic showed up on WAF a while back also with angled pocket corners,
                something you would not expect to see outside of KM and LW, so who knows?

                A tailor variation I assume... Its not in Mike Beaver's SS book (that deals with light weight tunics) as far as I remember...
                So I would like to see other examples of this tailor's variation!

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                  Originally posted by NickG View Post
                  Any other examples out there of light weight Waffen SS tunics with angled pocket corners (in the style of LW and KM)...?

                  A Wehrmacht privately tailored DAK Pzr tunic showed up on WAF a while back also with angled pocket corners,
                  something you would not expect to see outside of KM and LW, so who knows?

                  A tailor variation I assume... Its not in Mike Beaver's SS book (that deals with light weight tunics) as far as I remember...
                  So I would like to see other examples of this tailor's variation!
                  Nick,

                  I will try to get you some more pics of this tunic later . . .

                  If my memory doesn't fail me, the tunic does have belt supports - you just can't see them in the pics (these were just quick snaps of poor quality . . .). I don't clearly recall. The pocket flaps are the same size - the one that appears shorter I believe is just curled and slightly distorted in the pics. Are the buttons hollow? I don't recall - I'll try some more pics for you. I don't recall any stamps or markings on the tunic . . . at first I didn't expect it to, but who knows - maybe it should have some?

                  I picked this tunic up a while back simply as an attractive way to display and represent some of my insignia that I had lying around. At the time, I was torn about it being an SS tunic, but something about it just said "Hey, that could be kind of cool after all . . ." to me. The price was right too, considering it's potential to me.

                  Another reason I really liked the tunic, is that I recall pic of one very similar to it one of the Mollo books - the photo was of a TK Officer. The pockets were identical in cut to these, and it too was reputedly a private purchase tunic utilized for summer wear by the Officer. The tunic had a modified collar in green, but it definitely had the same style pockets. Who knows what is possible in the crazy world of what combatants did at that time?

                  Anyhow, I like the tunic myself, and I think I'll enjoy the time (and cash!) it takes to "restore" it back to what I believe it could possibly have been. One thing I feel is certain - we'll never know for sure what it was originally. So, I'm going to have a little fun with it, and turn it into a great opportunity for displaying some of my leftover insignia! I'll post some more pics later, and as it makes it evolution, I will try to continue to post more . . . and soon, maybe it will turn into a nice representative article of that which an Untersturmfuhrer artilleryman in the LAH might possibly have worn!

                  Of course, that's if I don't get any other intriguing opinions that lean me in another direction . . .

                  Brad

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                    #10
                    My old summer tunic now owned by Jacques had angled pocket edges. I wouldnt worry too much about it it is common in canvas and light weight tunics.

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                      Here are few more pics for everyone . . .
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                          Originally posted by John Pic View Post
                          My old summer tunic now owned by Jacques had angled pocket edges. I wouldnt worry too much about it it is common in canvas and light weight tunics.
                          John, old age is catching up with you, no angled pockets, I do have a pionier summer tunic with angled pockets. Brad I think the artillary will work very nicely. Red seems to bring a tunic alive. I think the tunic will be very nice when restored. Jacques
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