20 July Wound Badge

[W. C. Stump]

THE REAL THING

Originally posted by merdock
Hi,
Can anyone show some details of real v repro?
what about you Bill.
Merdock

This is my original that was bestowed to Admiral Hans-Erich Voss. This item camed cased with the official presentation document and was in my early collection.

I HAVEN'T MASTERED THE RESIZING PROCESS. I WILL TRY AGAIN AND POST LATER.

[W. C. Stump]

SECOND ATTEMPT

FINALLY.

[W. C. Stump]

VOSS BADGE IN CASE

In case.

[W. C. Stump]

REVERSE

Reverse marked "800"/"2". This is the issue or first type badge.

[W. C. Stump]

PRESENTATION DOCUMENT

This is the original presentation document for Voss's badge.

[DaveJ]

There are real badges available, but I will have to say they are not very obtainable. I was talking with a very advanced collector, well known, I will not mention his name, but he would trade one of the documented pieces he owns. My problem is that he is looking for similar rare items in trade, he had mentioned an oaks and swords document, I would have as dificult a time to get one of those, and then to trade it off?.
The saying goes we can keep it for ever, not to be morbid, but eventually one of the documented ones will come for sale, the trick is be lucky enough to hear about it, have the money ,ect, ect. I may never get one but the thrill is in the hunt, so I shall continue,
Dave

[W. C. Stump]

OAK LEAVES AND SWORDS WILL BRING AS MUCH OR MORE

I know of only 4 of the original first types with documents. If I had a Oak Leaves and Swords Document I wound have to think hard about trading for one of these due to the demand of the Oak Leaves and Swords documents. However, as far as rarity goes, a documented cased badged with document first type July 20, 1944 badge is rarer hands down.

[merdock]

Hi,
Does any body know who owns the Voss badge know i would like more up to date pics as they appear near identical ,the hinge etc is perfect.
Merdock

[W. C. Stump]

Originally posted by merdock
Hi,
Does any body know who owns the Voss badge know i would like more up to date pics as they appear near identical ,the hinge etc is perfect.
Merdock

I am afraid that the Voss Wound badge set I posted is in a privae collection. One must be content with the images here posted. More detailed pictures and measurments will only give the fake mongers information that they don't need. Then you would have only better "clones" to worry about.

[JuanS]

The one badge posted by Murdock is gold and not like the other one posted here. Were the gold for the ones that died?

thanks
Juan:flak_helm

[W. C. Stump]

Originally posted by jcsanche
The one badge posted by Murdock is gold and not like the other one posted here. Were the gold for the ones that died?

thanks
Juan:flak_helm

The gold badges were given to all victims of the bomb blast who were killed. Had any victim wounded whose wounds qualified then for the standard gold wound badge (Five wounds or more) would have received the July 20, 1944 badge.

As per the badge Merdocks, it is, in my opinion, a reproduction.

[merdock]

Hi all,
Hope this thread has put a end to all your bomb plot badge hunting,below is shown another badge.
First let me tell you how i came about these 2 badges,
many years ago i bought a old collection some good and some bad,the majority of the badges had duplicate one's that i think imo were intended for display he also had others that he had not displayed and were stored these were in his oppinion his originals
.As all of you know i am no expert in these matter's so i bought most of them?
Now thanks to the forum i have sorted out most of the wheat from the chaff[i'm still on the winning side] any way some of his originals were fake and some of his fake's were original.
the badges posted on this thread are'' his'' good and bad and are posted here to help you all ,because of there rarity i was not expecting any plus comments.
All the best Merdock

[merdock]

reverse;very similar to the other but not made imo by the same firm.

[WARLORD]

I am of the opinion that the Gold Wound badge is a copy, possibly produced in the 1980's. The silver mark is not asit should be and the 2 is also suspect.

[W. C. Stump]

Originally posted by WARLORD
I am of the opinion that the Gold Wound badge is a copy, possibly produced in the 1980's. The silver mark is not asit should be and the 2 is also suspect.

I agreed completely with my old warrior friend Chris. Both badges are complete "illusions". Sorry Merdock, but you got double stung. I think Pieter Verbruggen, most knowledgable in this area, will also agree the these badges are modern post-war fakes.